Curse

Clawdius_Talonious · Nov 06, 2006, 09:27 PM // 21:27

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Originally Posted by aspectacle

QFT. What is it with all the daggers? I'm trying to get wands for my caster heroes and all I'm getting is daggers. Those and purple hammers. What is it with purple hammers?

And all the dagger skins are UGLY, jeweled daggers, ruby daggers, etc... They look like icepicks.

Dahl · Nov 06, 2006, 09:28 PM // 21:28

I never get hammers.

Purple Staves, Purple Staves, and more Purple Staves. Mostly Air, Water, and Death.

No swords, No axes, No hammers, 1 Scythe, No spears, and 1 dagger, out of roughly 35 chests.

The Scythe and Dagger were gold. Each and every other chest was purple. Rigged much? In Tyria and Cantha, anywhere between 1/3 and 2/3 of the chests are gold. In elona, 1/18 chests are gold. What a ripoff, especially since the economy for elonian items is crap. An absolute perfect Spear or Scythe with a rare skin never peaks 100k.

Either drop the keys to 100g or less, or fix the drop ratio!

In terms of the actual DROPS, they're just fine the way they are, they're just a little unbalanced. Some areas of the map give none, but there's a few special maps that I keep secret that can sometimes drop 5 golds just by wandering through it and clearing it.

Dahl · Nov 06, 2006, 09:29 PM // 21:29

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Originally Posted by Clawdius_Talonious

And all the dagger skins are UGLY, jeweled daggers, ruby daggers, etc... They look like icepicks.

Ruby Daggers are a gift from heaven.

They yield Rubies when salvaged.

5k every time Ruby daggers drop, not too shabby!

darkdawn · Nov 06, 2006, 09:30 PM // 21:30

I've found ONE maxed scythe but i ave the prerelease so i sold it 5k or so. (no mod or anything) I've found a dozen of gold alot of blue/pruple. And like 5 maxed shield.

Sidra · Nov 06, 2006, 09:30 PM // 21:30

The drop rate is PATHETIC for me. Concurrent w/ most of the stuff people have stated about their rates going to hell. I haven't gotten a single gold drop, 2 purples, tons of blues (mostly 10^50 inscriptions, woohoo! *rolls eyes*) but i HAVE seen a ton of istani key drops and used most all of mine (11 total) and gotten nothing useful. The inscriptions, I will say, from chests, are much better than those usually dropped (for me). Meh.

Spirit Of Azrael · Nov 06, 2006, 09:34 PM // 21:34

Tyrian Warrior
Realm of Torment
Olias/MoW/Herta/Cynn/Gehraz/Mhenlo/Kihm

Have cleared 4 SEPERATE areas in the RoT. One purple drop- a 14-21 Fellblade with crap mods. 2 blue drops. and a yellow dye. 21 non-max white weapons. 4 hests opened, one in each zone. 4 purples; 3 offhands and a non-max spiky recurve bow r11

This "endgame" has got to be a gag, right? Please let this be a bug... it's getting irritating.

Bale_Shadowscar · Nov 06, 2006, 09:43 PM // 21:43

GAAAAHHHH!

Why are there so many rants about drops?

Why would ANet Nerf the drop rate for a certain campaign?

Why would ANet Nerf the drop rate at all!?

Its luck, pure and simple. You were unlucky. Doesn't mean you have to post all these stupid statistics and complain about drop rates being 'nerfed'.

God...

gabrial heart · Nov 06, 2006, 09:46 PM // 21:46

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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

Hi,

It's not uncommon to see players say they're not getting enough drops. I mean, can there ever be "enough" drops?

Seriously, though, if there are issues, we'd like to know about them and fix them, and to do that we have to replicate the issue, which requires information. This issue could be truth, it could be perception, it could be that things are functioning as planned. Those reporting the issue would help a lot of they provide any facts and figures they might have on hand, or if they would list:

the profession(s) you are playing that specifically seem shorted on drops. Provide birthplace, e.g., Elonian Ranger; Canthan Warrior.
the area(s) in which you are playing
the Heroes or Henchies you are using

Thanks very much.

I don't think it matters, any of those things. Most people i know are having the same issue, not that it's a MAJOR issue. But... the drop rate for stuff has bottomed out overall I've found. Most people are having a real tough time even outfitting thier heros with decently modded, max weapons. And forget starting new characters, unless you're off farming for collectors stuff, it might be awhile till you get anything max.

I'm just thankfull i have a full range of weapons for all my heros (accept the mes). And having the CE bonus items helps with melonni and morghan... Most people i know are using what came with the heros or non-max blues with crappy mods.

KamikazeChicken · Nov 06, 2006, 09:59 PM // 21:59

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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

Hi,

It's not uncommon to see players say they're not getting enough drops. I mean, can there ever be "enough" drops?

Seriously, though, if there are issues, we'd like to know about them and fix them, and to do that we have to replicate the issue, which requires information.

Elonian drops as a whole are lacking in reference to their innate stats. Level 24-28s aren't even dropping max stat items the majority of the time; shields are regularly < 14-15 , and weapons aren't even close to max dmg half the time.

I guess I'm sorry that I expected high-level mobs to drop anything of possible use?

Xalkie · Nov 06, 2006, 10:11 PM // 22:11

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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

Hi,
[*]the profession(s) you are playing that specifically seem shorted on drops. Provide birthplace, e.g., Elonian Ranger; Canthan Warrior. [*]the area(s) in which you are playing [*]the Heroes or Henchies you are using[/LIST]Thanks very much.

Gaile...Does profession matter in relation to drops?
I thought drops were totally random, do some professions get more / quality drops than others.
Just wondering.
Thank you

Dahl · Nov 06, 2006, 10:12 PM // 22:12

Yeah, once I go through Nightfall and once I get my Spiralling spear, I'm ditching everything elonian. It's not like the skins are any good there. You work for LONGER and waste MORE money than in tyria and cantha, and get next to nothing of any use. And even if you do, just about every other possible skin in the game is better looking.

I think I'm gonna have to go and get Tyrian and Canthan weapons for my heroes. If anything, drops should be higher in elona than in tyria and cantha due to having to supply like 20 heroes per character. Why play here when we can go to Lutgardis conservatory and get all kinds of good skinned items like gothic axes and swords, and have gold items drop considerably more than half the time.

It's really sad actually, chests in Istan are 100x better than all of the advanced ones. Istani ones are easier to get to, cost less, yield more golds, which leads to finding tons of 15^50 and +5 energy items.

To balance things, they should make 3/4 of the chests later on drop golds, but make considerably less chests so we dont waste 200k on keys to finally find a 30k item.

Batou of Nine · Nov 06, 2006, 10:16 PM // 22:16

Ok, this is in regards to Gaile's response.

It is not merely "what i say" it is fact. I have compared this to the previous chapters now. Today i have done 2 missions in Tyria (Elonas Reach + Thunderhead Keep) of which i nearly completely filled my inventory with loot from drops only...i got golds, purples, blues and whites of which were ALL max dmg items.

Did 2 missions in Cantha (Tahanakai Temple + Unwaking Waters). Both of which the results were nearly completely the same as the two tyrian missions. Full inventory, max dmg stuff, mix of whites, purples, blues and golds.

The 2 latest missions i have done in Elona were Dzagonur Bastion & i think Rehlon Refuge. Refuge i got about 5 drops. Bastion i got 4 drops. Seriously. And nONE of these items were max stat items, as i fought either lvl 20 foes, and at the Bastion lvl 24+ foes.

Several friends of mine in game are experiencing that same thing. So again i say, Gaile, its NOT simply cause i say it is occuring. I tested it and its fact.

I will submit a report to Anet Support, but i doubt anything can be done. I guess my BIGGEST problem is being THIS far into the game and i still don't get max stat items. Quite silly.

Remember this is not just about bad drop rate, its about non-max items dropping from lvl 24+ monsters... seems to be wrong.

Cheers!

EDIT:: Here let's re-iterate my point, done well by this person::

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Originally Posted by kamikazechicken

Elonian drops as a whole are lacking in reference to their innate stats. Level 24-28s aren't even dropping max stat items the majority of the time; shields are regularly < 14-15 , and weapons aren't even close to max dmg half the time.

I guess I'm sorry that I expected high-level mobs to drop anything of possible use?

Sir Skullcrasher · Nov 06, 2006, 10:18 PM // 22:18

I hope i can get some decent weapons dropped for me. My Paragon and Dervish are both using collector weapons i got from the preorder box. So far, I only seen one gold item dropped for me by a chest. That item turned out to be none max sword (funny, the skin were Falchion).

Lex Talionis · Nov 06, 2006, 10:22 PM // 22:22

If you really want max dmg weapons just get keys and open chests. I wouldn't really depend on drops.

Dahl · Nov 06, 2006, 10:25 PM // 22:25

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Originally Posted by Batou of Nine

Ok, this is in regards to Gaile's response.

It is not merely "what i say" it is fact. I have compared this to the previous chapters now. Today i have done 2 missions in Tyria (Elonas Reach + Thunderhead Keep) of which i nearly completely filled my inventory with loot from drops only...i got golds, purples, blues and whites of which were ALL max dmg items.

Did 2 missions in Cantha (Tahanakai Temple + Unwaking Waters). Both of which the results were nearly completely the same as the two tyrian missions. Full inventory, max dmg stuff, mix of whites, purples, blues and golds.

The 2 latest missions i have done in Elona were Dzagonur Bastion & i think Rehlon Refuge. Refuge i got about 5 drops. Bastion i got 4 drops. Seriously. And nONE of these items were max stat items, as i fought either lvl 20 foes, and at the Bastion lvl 24+ foes.

Several friends of mine in game are experiencing that same thing. So again i say, Gaile, its NOT simply cause i say it is occuring. I tested it and its fact.

I will submit a report to Anet Support, but i doubt anything can be done. I guess my BIGGEST problem is being THIS far into the game and i still don't get max stat items. Quite silly.

Remember this is not just about bad drop rate, its about non-max items dropping from lvl 24+ monsters... seems to be wrong.

Cheers!

I agree to a point. You're actually nowhere near the end of the game though so I can see the stuff being not max. To compare your nightfall progress to your canthan progress, Bastion is about as far through nightfall as maybe Vizunah square is through Factions. You're not even really halfway there. Once you hit the FULL mobs of 7-8 level 24 monsters, then you'll start to get your mad damage equipment. Eventually you'll start running into mobs of 28.

But most of all there is a serious drop rate problem. It is NOT just luck. My entire guild suffers from lack of drops, and wasted money on keys.

Clawdius_Talonious · Nov 06, 2006, 10:28 PM // 22:28

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Originally Posted by Dahl

Ruby Daggers are a gift from heaven.

They yield Rubies when salvaged.

5k every time Ruby daggers drop, not too shabby!

You mean I've been merching them and I could've salvaged rubies! Argh!

Gwmaster · Nov 06, 2006, 10:28 PM // 22:28

some of you guys are realy lucky, im at gates of madness mission i so far i only found 1 gold and it wasnt max dmg , but at least it had a 15^50 inscription on it.But the only thing that anoys me a bit is the fact that 95% of the endgame items arent max damage

Clawdius_Talonious · Nov 06, 2006, 10:31 PM // 22:31

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Originally Posted by Gwmaster

But the only thing that anoys me a bit is the fact that 95% of the endgame items arent max damage

QFT!

I mean geez, the drops are Prophy LA area equivellent in Desolation and even at times in the Realm of Torment...

Batou of Nine · Nov 06, 2006, 10:32 PM // 22:32

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Originally Posted by Lex Talionis

If you really want max dmg weapons just get keys and open chests. I wouldn't really depend on drops.

You my friend have not a clue.

Depending on drops isnt the issue. It is the fact that Lvl 24+ 28+ monsters DON'T drop max stat items. This should not be, as ALL high end mobs in previous chapters DID. If this remains, no incentive remains to fight/search for high end mobs.\

Dahl, Ok, admittedly, i guess i have a good amount more to get to end game, however when fighting lvl 24+ monsters already, i would EXPECT at least ONE max stat item of ANY sort to drop from them.

I have honestly not gotten one so far.
(oops, spamming again, ok done.)

cheers. (P.S. Sorry, i'm kind of post spamming. ill stop... hehe)

Dahl · Nov 06, 2006, 10:43 PM // 22:43

Finding gold items raises the damage though.

The way I understand it, there is almost never max damage white items. A white item drops and the game rolls a die to see if it's blue. If yes: Bump the damage and roll again for purple. If yes: Bump the damage some more and roll again for gold. If yes: bump the damage (which usually brings it to max)

If I'm not mistaken, that's how rarity is decided, though it may be the other way around, starting gold and rolling to go down in value, which is very possible.

Gaile: Correct me if I'm wrong, but that is usually how it is. Being a developer myself for my own mmorpg, that's how I deal with rarity drops.